slowhand Digest Volume 01 : Issue 291
Today's Topics:
re Duane Allman on "LAOALS
Japanese pics? (fwd)
A Very Incredible Guitar Player (fwd)
Los Angeles Circuit Guitarist's
Re: Looking for MP3s
Re: The Slow Digest
MP3 o' the Week
Re: A Very Incredible Guitar Player
Free cdr's
looking for the edge
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From: Chris Firth
Subject: re Duane Allman on "LAOALS
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>>> was truly dismayed when I learned (only very
recently at that),
that it
was Duane that fired up "Why Does Love Have to Be So
Sad" <<<
>> no! it's Clapton. he repeated it later too as a
guest on a cover
version
by
Buckwheat Zydeco <<
Nope, it's Duane Allman on "LAOALS," but Clapton shows
up about halfway
through Duane's solo and adds his 2 cents. And it's
quite an inspiring
2
cents.
However, it is Clapton on the Buckwheat Zydeco track.
DeltaNick
>> No that's definitely Clapton! You can hear the
difference in guitar tones, and separation that it's
Clapton. It's also in the recording stuff that's
handed out in the 20th anniversary box set.
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From: David Hillman
Subject: Japanese pics? (fwd)
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Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 05:19:58 -0500
From: "[iso-8859-1] Sébastien JEGOU"
To: slowhand-request@planet-torque.com
Subject: Japanese pics?
Hi everyone.
Did you see any fotos from the 2001 japanese tour? If you have a link.
I was listening to the radio news in my car when I learned George
Harrison's death. Shortly after that they broadcasted few songs of him, and
I suddenly remembered how strong and emotional his compositions and
songwriting were.
God bless him.
Sebastien from Paris
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From: David Hillman
Subject: A Very Incredible Guitar Player (fwd)
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I did not write this, so don't respond to me.
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D a v i d H i l l m a n
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Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 08:04:40 -0500
From: ollio
To: slowhand@planet-torque.com
Subject: A Very Incredible Guitar Player
Hi all,
There was a funny comment on Clapton's guitar playing abilities in SD 288.
The commentator was the famous Very-Incredible-Guitar-Player-Rick.
Usually these would-be musicians are full of jealousy and hatered against
those, who have achived something, they themselves never will. This time
we had a wise musical genius Rick (A Very Incredible Guitar Player), whose
well researched opinions made me decide, that I have been wrong all these
decades. Clapton is in fact a very poor guitar player. Rick the Incredible
Guitar Player said: "There are many, many players here on the L.A.
circuit alone that could have done as good." And I belive this. These
English guys suck and L.A. circuit players are the ones who know how to
play the blues.
"Clapton needs to understand this concept" as Rick (the Guitar-God) so
well said. It's one the biggest mysteries to me why nobody ever hears any
music from these Incredible Guitar Players from L.A. , that know so well
how Clapton should play, if EC wanted to get near their musical genius.
Please Rick (the one and only Incredible Guitar Player) tell us all,
where we could hear your art and find the truth about guitar playing.
I'd like to leave you with these thoughtful words from incredible-Rick:
"No, was, and still is, Eric Clapton, and he will never, ever be great
again until he recognizes that fact."
I am yours,
Olli
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From: Keith Bode
Subject: Los Angeles Circuit Guitarist's
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Being from the Los Angeles area, and frequently gogin to one of the best
Blues Clubs around here, The Blue Cafe, I agree there are some awfully
good guitarists around here. I've seen most of them. Kid Ramos is one
of the best. Now he plays guitar in The Fabulous Thunderbirds. If
you've seen or heard Kid play, you'd agree, Jimmy Vaughn couldn't get
his old job back if he wanted it. Coco Montoya is another great
guitarist. After playing with Albert Collins some, and playing for a
while in one of Clapton's old jobs, John Mayall's Blues Breakers, Coco
is doing well with his own band. Overall, you'd be hard pressed to go
into the Blue Cafe and hear a crappy guitarist. Even the Saturday
afternoon band, Mama's Boys, has a great guitarist, Dave Melton, (I had
to plug Dave, he's a friend of mine). Guitar Shorty is a fixture in the
Los Angeles area. The first time I saw him play "Hey Joe" I forgot that
other guys name. Most of the bands around here, also tour the country,
and Europe. Guys who play Happy Hour at the Blue Cafe, have toured
Europe. Yes, there is a wealth of great overlooked guitarists here in
Los Angeles area. On the other hand, there are no Eric Clapton's, no
Duanne Allman's here. But there are a number of guys who could fit in
the ABB or [lay with Clapton.
Keith
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From: "Ken Norris"
Subject: Re: Looking for MP3s
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Hi,
I am still looking for MP3s of CD quality for Rock Me Baby (from Deuces Wild) and The Thrill Is Gone (from Concert of the Century). Search now widening to also include:
Border Song (from Two Rooms--the songs of EJ and BT)
Same Old Blues (from Music for Montserrat)
and
Boogie Chillen (from John Lee Hooker, The Best of Friends)
Please contact me privately if you have any of these.
Best,
Ken
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From: Jonathan Clermont
Subject: Re: The Slow Digest
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It's interesting to me, Nick, that you remain such an
active digest presence while you remain, for the most
part, underwhelmed by EC. Sure I enjoy a lot of the
Cream stuff, but to answer your question... no, I
don't think EC has gotten fat musically ever since.
If I had I would have tired of him years ago.
I'm not going to defend reptile too vehemently. But I
am not ready to push it aside either. It usually
takes time for me to appreciate his new albums as they
come. I am at the point now, as a matter of fact,
where I am looking back on Pilgrim as a high point (I
realize that this is not a popular stance).
I really don't interpret EC's growth into adulthood as
anything other than a constant improvement. He was
just a kid in the sixties, and for the most past he
was stoned through all of it. I listen to his solos,
they sound sloppy. Everyone's always so enthusiastic
about the old live crossroads; it sounds kind of
clunky to me. I don't see how anyone can even compare
it to, say, a River Of Tears solo from the current
tour, but I'm sure someone will. I guess it's all a
matter of what happens once the music has entered our
ears. The newer stuff just gets me in a way that the
old Jack-Bruced-out clutter never has come close to.
I see Eric in interviews now, and I'm almost brought
to tears. He has truely mastered a balance between
clear-headedness, and emotion, not to mention
worldliness and grace. I believe this shows in his
music. and yes, I believe that this is a better
quality in a musician than drugged-out
disorganization.
...but, just to make sure we can all agree on
something--I recently listened to Reptile and can say
in all honestly that Modern Girl sucks!
I look forward to further correspondence on this,
Jonathan
Delta Nick Wrote...
Folks, issue #282 was the briefest I've ever seen.
Must be a slow news
month, because the Slowhand Digest is getting smaller
and shorter. So,
in
the interest of generating some discussion, I'll just
stir the pot ...
Do any of you think that EC has become predictable and
boring? Do you
think
he's just coasting ... and stopped heavy lifting some
time back? When?
Do you think he cares?
I can listen to "Reptile," but it's pretty much
background music only.
Nice
album, but it's not a great album. And I certainly
feel that it's much
more
listenable than the drek he put out in the 1970s. Do
you find yourself
REALLY listening to this album, or just putting it on
for some pleasant
sounds, while you do something else? To which albums
do you REALLY
listen; I
mean, when you close your eyes and forget,
momentarily, about
everything
else in the world? Is "Reptile" this kind of an album?
Can we expect
more of
such "pleasant" music from Eric Clapton? Will he ever
really "rock"
again?
When was the last time you think he really rocked?
Although it's clear that EC sings much better today,
do you think his
guitar
playing has changed in the past two decades? People
say that his guitar
playing changed following the '60s, because he had to
grow. But one CAN
grow
in unpleasant directions. Getting fat is growth too,
right? And some
older
folks actually grow smaller. Has Clapton grown fat
musically? Is he
musically shrinking? Is his musical well dried up?
Does Clapton's music
really excite you any longer? Is his guitar playing
anything special
any
more?
Do you think that maybe some fans are just confused,
that his guitar
playing
changed dramatically, following the '60s, as a result
of drug and
alcohol
abuse. Do you think that some people have confused
this with "growth"?
If
his guitar playing continued to grow following the
'60s, did it ever
stop
growing, such as during the '70s or '80s? On a
commercial recording,
when
was his last great guitar solo?
Is Clapton primarily a singer, or a guitarist? Is the
guitar something
he
just wears around his neck, something to occupy his
hands while he's
singing
on stage?
Do too many fans fawn and gush over everything EC
does? Is Clapton
capable
of making bad music? If Clapton burps, how many fans
will believe he
has
attained new musical heights?
Enquiring readers want to know.
DeltaNick
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From: "Josh Ritter"
Subject: MP3 o' the Week
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This week's mp3 is everyone's favorite, Little Wing. Recorded on 12 August,
1975 at the Denver Coliseum. Quite a performance, I especially love the
dual solos between Mr. G. Terry and EC near the end..what a duo they were!
I'm getting a few emails each week asking for me to repost old MP3's of the
Week. I would gladly do so, but I'm dealing with a limited amount of web
space (and free time). My apologies to those I haven't gotten back to yet
regarding your requests. So just FYI...another fellow SDer has generously
offered his free space for past MP3's, so, hopefully soon, whomever missed
one can go get them at another site. Also, I'll be compiling a disc of all
selections soon, which I'll make available to the Digest. I think the past
12 weeks selections will make a fantastic compilation. It'll have to wait
until after exams however. (Ryan Noyes, I'm sure you don't miss this time
of year one bit!) Email me with any questions or future MP3 requests.
Enjoy!
All the best,
Josh Ritter
www.msu.edu/~ritterj3
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From: "Scott Wallenberg"
Cc: "Slowhander"
Subject: Re: A Very Incredible Guitar Player
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Actually Olli,
If you would like to hear Rick's playing just put on the Slowhand digest
tribute disc EC Uncovered and you can hear his playing and interpretation of
Crossroads. Gerd has it available on his site
http://www.12bar.de/ec_uncovered/index.htm This was recorded on a
Portastudio in one take..no overdubs.
The"Very incredible guitar player" label was my opinion (although others on
the digest who have heard the track have said the same thing) as I happen to
be in a band with Rick and have heard him play for over 20 years. Eric
Clapton was the reason that Rick, myself and so many other players picked up
the guitar in the first place.He just feels saddened to see his personal
blues/rock guitar hero change to a Pop crooner.Personally, I'm more of a
vocalist/rhythm guitarist so I happen to enjoy EC's vocals as well.
He is talking about Eric's current guitar output/guitar technique versus
the old days when comparing LA Session players. By the way, in regard to
the LA session men. These guys are generally not included when album credits
are listed.They come in, record their tracks, get paid of course, and
leave.FYI, during the recording of tracks for the single "Change the
World", one of LA's most in demand session players was brought in to play
the rhythm guitar parts to beef up the sound.I know this for a fact as he
played at Rick's wedding last summer and told us all about the session
which has never been credited on the disc. The LA Session men were also
brought in in 1985 by Warner Bros. to beef up and add three tracks on Behind
The Sun. That is how Nathan East was asked to join Clapton's band and has
been with him ever since.
Scott
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: A Very Incredible Guitar Player
> Hi all,
> There was a funny comment on Clapton's guitar playing abilities in SD
> 288.
> The commentator was the famous Very-Incredible-Guitar-Player-Rick.
> Usually these would-be musicians are full of jealousy and hatered
> against those, who have achived something,
> they themselves never will. This time we had a wise musical genius
> Rick (A Very Incredible Guitar Player), whose
> well researched opinions made me decide, that I have been wrong all
> these decades. Clapton is in fact a very poor guitar player. Rick the
> Incredible Guitar Player said: "There are many, many
> players here on the L.A. circuit alone that could have done as good."
> And I belive this.
> These English guys suck and L.A. circuit players are the ones who
> know how to play the blues.
> "Clapton needs to understand this concept" as Rick (the Guitar-God)
> so well said.
> It's a great mystery to me why nobody ever hears any music from these
> Incredible Guitar Players from L.A. ,
> that know so well how Clapton should play, if EC ever wanted to get
> near their musical genius.
> Please Rick (the one and only Incredible Guitar Player) tell us all,
> where we could hear your art and find the truth
> about guitar playing.
> I'd like to leave you with these thoughtful words from incredible-
> Rick:
> "No, was, and still is, Eric Clapton, and he will never, ever be great
> again until he recognizes that fact."
>
> I am yours,
> Olli
>
>
> ...............................................
> Oma sähköposti aina käytössä! http://luukku.com
>
>
> End of slowhand Digest V01 Issue #290
>
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From: James Fox
Subject: looking for the edge
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Could some kind soul please tell me how I might
obtain a copy of the 1985 studio recording of "Edge Of
Darkness" ? I was recently discussing my acoustic
version of it with someone and I'd like for them to
hear the original. The recording I've been using is
one of those BBC EPs and there's some crackly critters
living in the grooves. - Thanks, James F.
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